Three methods of communicating with groups of people

Both discussion groups and newsgroups allow for group communication. The primary difference is that you must first subscribe to or join a discussion group, whereas anyone can browse and interact with a newsgroup. Another name for discussion groups is list servers (or ListServ). Another name for newsgroups is UseNet.

DISCUSSION GROUPS (LISTSERVERS) – (one to many distribution of e-mail messages) Discussion groups are made up of people anywhere on the Internet who agree to communicate about a certain topic using e-mail. Anyone can join or subscribe to a discussion group. Discussions are usually on the main topic, but messages on other topics are usually tolerated or redirected to other groups. Each message sent to the group’s address is routed through e-mail to all group members.

E-mail is the medium for all communication in a discussion group. Using e-mail, a person makes a request to join or subscribe to a group. That person them shares in group messages. Any message sent to the group is rebroadcast via e-mail to all group members. Some groups are moderated, in which case a message sent to the group is first routed to the moderator. The moderator determines if the content is appropriate for the discussion group and then forwards it to everyone in the discussion group.

The discussion group is managed by software. This software does tasks like:

There are two addresses in a discussion group. The group or list address is the e-mail address you use to communicate with the group. When you send e-mail to this address it is delivered to all group members. The administrative address is used to subscribe to the list, unsubscribe from the list, get a list of members, request archives of list messages, etc. Never send a message to unsubscribe to the list address or everyone on the list receives your request and instead of unsubscribing you get messages from annoyed people who will sarcastically tell you the address to use for unsubscribing.

Joining a discussion group – simply send a e-mail message to the administrative address containing the message "subscribe list-name your name"

To quit a discussion group – send e-mail to the group’s administrative address. The message of the e-mail should say "unsubscribe list-name".

For example, to subscribe to the InterNIC Scout Report, a weekly compilation of new Internet resources and web sites, one would send an e-mail message with the following attributes:

_______________________________________________________________

To: listserv@lists.internic.net

----------------------

subscribe scout-report Joe Student

_____________________________________________________________________

To find discussion groups you may want to join, use the following web sites:

Let’s try To locate some mailing lists. Go to WWW.YAHOO.COM

Scroll down to the directory and click on COMPUTERS AND THE INTERNET, then click on INTERNET, then click on MAILING LISTS, then click on COMPUTERS AND THE INTERNET

You should see a list of mailing lists

Try one more spot, go to the following site


www.lsoft.com/LISTS/LISTREF.HTML

LISTSERV TERMINOLOGY

The world of electronic mailing lists has its own jargon. Unfortunately, the terms do not always mean the same thing to the same person. Often, how a term is understood has a lot to do with the type(s) of list server software a person deals with.

UseNet

Originally conceived (early 1980's) for the exchange of technical information, usenet soon became more. Newsgroups were developed for non-technical subjects such as hobbies and social interests.

There are thousands of newsgroups. Usenet is not a network but a service carried over the Internet. Think of it as an organized e-mail system, except there is no single user that the mail is sent to. Instead the messages are sent to a newsgroup section, available for anyone who accesses that newsgroup. You write something you want others to read and you send it (post it) to the newsgroup. You use special software called a READER to look at the newsgroup's contents. Some WWW sites will provide limited access to newsgroups but the Reader programs are more powerful.

Once a newsgroup has been created, anything can be sent to the newsgroup and made accessible to everyone else on the Internet. Some newsgroups are moderated to assure that the postings are relative to the topic, the postings don't contain profanity, or that there isn't flaming.


  1. a newsgroup member sends text and pictures from their home computer to the newsgroup maintained on computers at their local ISP office.
  2. The posted message is stored on a server operated by the local Internet Service Provider or an information service like America On Line. These local ISP (or information service) organizations have a server dedicated to newsgroup files. Periodically, usually once each day, the postings are uploaded to other servers that maintain nationwide newsgroup postings on a computer available for a fee to the ISP
  3. A national organization has a server dedicated to keeping newsgroup postings. They offer access to these files for a monthly fee which is paid to them by your local ISP.
  4. A local Internet Service Provider pays a fee to the national company maintaining the newsgroup files. The local ISP uploads new postings daily to the national server and then downloads the entire set of newsgroups daily. The local ISP stores the downloaded newsgroup files on a local server computer at their office These files stored locally are then made available to the ISP’s subscribers. The entire set of files includes approximately 40,000 newsgroups. There are eight main hierarchical categories and one called Alt. Alt is basically an "anything goes" category. When the files are downloaded from the nationwide server, the local ISP can specify what, if any, newsgroups are not to be downloaded. Some local ISPs allow uncensored access to all news groups, other local ISPs filter out certain newsgroups (for example the local ISP may decide to not download any .alt newsgroup postings).
  5. A person uses their computer at home or work with either a web browser or a newsreader program to connect to your local ISP newsgroup server for selecting and reading individual postings. A newsreader program gives the user more control of the process and can keep track of "favorite" newsgroup categories so you can get to them easier. The net result is that the newsgroups don’t have a URL like World Wide Web files. They are accessed from your local ISP’s computers which is periodically updated by the local ISP from a national server.

Newsgroup topics are arranged or named in a hierarchical manner. The name of a newsgroup usually consists of several words separated by periods. The first part is the top level or category in the hierarchy. As you move to the right, the names become more specific. Ex: rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic

rec is the main hierarchy grouping, a group that deals with music, recreation, hobbies, etc. The word music indicates the group discusses topics relating to music. The word makers indicates the discussion is about playing or performing music. The last two words, guitar and acoustic, indicate this is a discussion about playing acoustic guitars.

A system administrator supervises the server. With thousands of newsgroups, a naming system was developed to find groups that interest you.

Identifier

category

Biz

Business

Comp

Computers

News

General news

Rec

Recreational, hobbies, art

Sci

Scientific

Soc

Social

Alt and misc

Doesn't fall into above

Hierarchies are arranged so they get more specific as you work your way down. For example:
rec. (recreation groups)
rec.collecting (recreation groups about collecting)
rec.collecting.sport (recreation groups about sports collecting)
rec.collecting.sport.football (a recreation group about sports collecting, specifically: football)
Note that rec.collecting.sport.* (the * means everything in this group, would also include sports collecting groups about baseball, hockey, etc.

Sample newsgroups:
Rec.audio Rec.audio.high-end
Rec.autos.antique Alt.autos.antique
News.announcements.newusers Rec.humor.funny
Misc.forsale Rec.video
Rec.arts.movies Rec.travel
Alt.folklore.urban Rec.arts.movies.reviews
Rec.music.misc Rec.arts.startrek
Rec.birds
Alt.music.billy-joel
Alt.fan.conan-obrien
Alt.fan.james-bond
Rec.sports.baseball
Rec.sports.football.college
Alt.sports.racquetball
Alt.president.clinton

Nearly all Usenet Newsgroups are non-commercially oriented. Posting ads or solicitations in these newsgroups is inappropriate and won't be welcomed.

NEWSREADER – A newsreader is the interface (program) between a user and the server. It allows you to track specific newsgroups you read regularly, read posted articles, keep articles you have previously read. Some web sites allow you to access news groups but won’t provide the convenience and features a dedicated newsreader program has. A popular web site that let’s you see newsgroup articles is http://www.dejanews.com/

You can search newsgroups with sites like www.altavista.digital.com

You can click on the drop down list to indicate you want to search newsgroups instead of the web.

Another site is www.excite.com

Lets try searching UseNet

Start up the Netscape Navigator browser

Enter the URL www.dejanews.com

This screen (which may be changed by the time you do this lab) allows you to type a search for a specific topic or select a category. Click on HOBBIES, on the next screen click on PETS.

Click on the link to the right of rec.pets.cats

Click on the rec.cats.anecdotes link

 

Newsgroup Terms You Should Know